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Modify sizing string prefix from "Design Size" to "Autosized" for more clarity in table headers and sizing outputs #8805
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@mjwitte we want to get your thoughts on this. Is there some historical context to calling things "Design Size" that we're missing here? |
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@nealkruis A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, EnergyPlus only reported the final answer without distinguishing between autosized and user-specified values. When the dual reporting was added (so users could see if the user-specified value was wildly different from what the auto-sized value would have been and throw warnings about that), the prefixes "Design Size" and "User-Specified" were chosen. I don't recall if there was some debate that steered away from "Autosized". @rraustad or @EnergyArchmage might remember. |
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Not all "Design Size" values are actually used as Autosized values. This whole thing seems suspect. The idea is that users may hard size something that E+ is able to autosize and that their input may be very different from the design size calcs and we can do them a service by pointing out what the autosize value would be were the input set to autosize. I haven't taken a close look at this but it seems to create more problems. |
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@EnergyArchmage, I think I understand but I want to clarify: Are "Design Sizes" ever calculated if sizing is turned off? I think the point that you are making is that just because something is sized with the autosizing routines doesn't mean that the size will automatically be set. That is, in some cases it is simply provided as a point of comparison. I think "Autosized" will mean more to users than "Design Size" even if there are some semantics that are not technically accurate about it. This change will cause problems for people parsing the output tables, but it would be covered in the output transition document for the next version just like every other breaking output change. Thoughts? |
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well I am not convinced the "issue" here is a defect. The dude: "Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man." There may be/are places where the implementation is not uniform but yes the policy is that the "Design Size" is not always calculated if there is no sizing. Is repeating Autosize better than repeating Design Size? |
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@matthew-larson I marked this for the IO Freeze milestone because of the string change. I expect some interfaces and other tools might search in the output by string, and this has the potential to affect that. So getting it in for IO freeze (or punting until next release) will be important. Let me know if you need to chat about it. Thanks! |
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@Myoldmopar After some discussion, we're going to go ahead and push this off until after the release to get a better plan going forward. |
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